Don't Need No Stinkin' Warrants

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Posted on: Jan. 24, 2006 at 9:36 AM

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I posted this alert as a comment this morning but think it qualifies as an article. Please excuse the redundancy.

AZ Moderate has written extensively about the Bush Administration's abuse of power and Rdrover has described how the Bush Administration has been "snagged" by the law as it's drifted about imposing its will on Congress and the electorate. Put yourself in Bush's shoes - what's the real problem here that prevents the Administration from doing what it damn well Bush_Finger pleases?

If you thought one answer was related to the troublesome notion of Due Process and a legal system involving probable cause and those pesky warrants, what would you do?

Well, one approach might be consolidation of power and removal of the snags with legislation.

A proposed revision to the Patriot Act establishes a new Federal Police Force - the Uniformed Division of the Secret Service - empowered to "make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony."

The Uniformed Division would be "subject to the supervision of the Secretary of Homeland Security." Enough said.

No analogies with Stalin or Hitler, please! This provision is written in English by American elected officials!
Want to know more? Just Google, if you dare: United States Secret Service Uniformed Division Patriot Act.

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Phaedrus

Jan. 25, 2006 at 09:49:57 AM

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So lets get all of GW Bush and Eltorture Gonzalez's arguements straight:
They don't need warrants.
They can detain Americans for an indefinate period of time.
They can torture detainees.
They can send detainees to secret prisons.
They've changed the definition of torture; it excludes anything short of pain of organ failure or death.
From Sept 2001, to Jan 2004, 134 detainees have died while in US custody, 4 of natural causes, 25 from exposure/freezing, and the rest from injuries sustained while being questioned.
Why do Conservatives hate the Constitution?
Why do Republicans hate America?

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AZ Moderate

Jan. 31, 2006 at 12:18:53 AM

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Bob. Now you've gone and done it! I can't help myself. Your discovery and the fact that it has gone unnoticed and unreported is frightening.

I have preached and lectured for at least 100 years that we (and any population) have Hitlerian personalities among us. And these guys keep popping up, generation after generation. The only reason they don't flower is that the soil is not right.

Hitler was not a mad man, at least before the forties. To look for that in any of our leaders is to miss the real threat completely. Hitler had a lot of support from Germans who lived to regret their blind faith, but he was charismatic, and in the zeitgeist of the great depression his message had great appeal to Average Germans.
o He had “corporate” support, because he promised to revitalize Germany’s industrial might.
o He had support from the Wehrmacht as he gained power because he promised to restore Germany’s military might.
o It is said that his constituency contained an inordinate percentage of German women, and that the grand daughter of Wagner hosted parties for him to met the powerful on his way up before he gained control.

He was not perceived as a madman by educated and civilized Germans – quite the contrary. He was their “man on a white horse”. He had simple “moral” answers and “family values” (at least for Aryans), and they flocked to him. The question has been posed, “How did Hitler and the Nazis rise to power in Germany, which for two centuries at least had been the workshop of Western civilization?”

It’s simply that the seeds of tyranny lie dormant in all political soil, and need only the right conditions to flower and grow there poisonous fruit.

Here is a short brief on the soil for Hitler:

Hitler’s financiers: [link:www.johndclare.net]

Many industrials bankrolled the Nazis, including allegedly:
• Hjalmar Schacht, Head of the Reichsbank, organised fund-raising parties for Hitler.
• Fritz von Thyssen, the German steel businessman
• Alfred Krupp, the owner of Krupp steel firm
• Emil Kirdorf, the coal businessman
• IG Faben, the German chemicals firm, gave half the funds for the 1933 elections
• The German car firms Skoda and Opel
• Schroeder Bank – on Jan. 3, 1933, Reinhard Schroeder met Hitler and asked him to form a government.

Sound just a little familiar?

Adolf Hitler’s rise to Power: [link:www2.dsu.nodak.edu]

On March 23, 1933, the Reichstag passed the Enabling Act, which gave dictatorial authority to Hitler's cabinet for four years. Armed with full powers, Hitler moved to eliminate all possible centers of opposition. His policy is known as Gleichschaltung, which translates literally as coordination. In this context, however, it meant more precisely subordination, that is, subordinating all independent institutions to the authority of Hitler and the Nazi Party.

Sound just a little bit familiar?

National Police Force:
[link:en.wikipedia.org]

The Prussian Secret Police (German: Preußische Geheimpolizei) was the state police agency of the German state of Prussia in the 19th century and early 20th century.

In 1851 Police Union of German States was set up by the police forces of Austria, Baden, and the German principalities of Prussia, Sachsen, Hannover, Bavaria, and Württemberg. It was specifically organsied to suppress political dissent …
…
The Prussian Secret Police has historically held a bad reputation, as it was the model upon which the Gestapo was later founded. The Prussian Secret Police, however, did not routinely engage in persecution or abuse of police powers, and did not behave in the way that other secret police forces might.

See any possibilities today?

National Secret Police Force:
[link:www.infowars.com]

The Patriot Act Amendments to HR3199 include a portion for creating a Secret Service Uniformed Devision.
This "Secret Police" will have rights to warrantless arrest. They can be called upon by the president at special events of national significance, as determined by the President.
(1) When directed by the President, the United States Secret Service is authorized to participate, under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland
Security, in the planning, coordination, and implementation of security operations at special events of national significance, as determined by the president.

Thanks for the heads up on this Bob. We Average Americans had damned well better be aware of this and shackle it before it shackles us!!

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