ZIETGEIST
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Posted By: prometheus Posted on: Dec. 17, 2007 at 9:50 PM |
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Dec. 18, 2007 at 05:50:58 PM
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| Starts with the true roots of Christianity (according to whoever made this flick), the ole 9-11 conspiracy, the enslavement of all Americans, the banking industry, ties in many, many who, how, when, what, why and where of "they are out to get us" theories . . .like I've never seen before. Watching the thing will answer any questions about it, better than I can . . . many facets to cover, it just slaps u upside the face continually for the entirety of the show. I understand the time issue . . . I am six months behind on everything I need to do
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Dec. 18, 2007 at 06:10:59 PM
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| Thanks for the "big brain" diploma Prom. This was the movie where Tom Carter got most of his Fed Reserve and 9-11 Conspiracy talking points from, so it has come up in conversation previously. Basically the movie is divided into three parts: a dissection of organized religion, a bitter critique of our monetary policy and the Federal Reserve, and a case for 9-11 as an inside job a la Loose Change. Basically, I like the first part, there were points in the second part that had merit, and the third part was on the same shaky ground that I have previously critiqued in Loose Change. I'm not unbiased however, since I have a deep distrust of the motivations of organized religion, and am receptive to any well-researched historical facts that undermine the multimillenia con job of men dressed up in frilly clothes claiming to speak for God. As for monetary policy, I think it is a bit naive to think that eliminating the Fed and returning to the Gold Standard will magically cure our economic woes. In part, the Fed came about to eliminate the kind of unregulated free-market run on the banks that lead to the Great Depression. Whether the Fed is a well-functioning healthy institution is another matter. It is also true that a strict gold standard would make overspending impossible, and insulate the value of the dollar from the vagaries of perception. But there is a whole new set of problems when you have a rapidly expanding population, and a finite amount of currency to support that growth. Fundamentally, I truly believe that the Reagan revolution and our subsequent 30 year experiment in complete market deregulation -- instead of emphasizing a fair market, fostering a strong middle-class, and developing sound long-range economic policies -- is what has us teetering on the economic precipice today. And yet the neocons still want to sell you the idea that larger and larger doses of this poison will eventually cure us. The third part of the movie? Well, let's just say I remain skeptical that the inside job theory is the only, let alone the most likely, explanation for the events of 9-11. |
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Dec. 18, 2007 at 08:59:05 PM
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| I thought the movie where Tom Carter got all of his talking points was "The wizard of Oz"
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Dec. 18, 2007 at 09:06:26 PM
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| Now THAT was funny, Prom!!! |
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Dec. 18, 2007 at 09:09:54 PM
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| Thanks Indie
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Dec. 18, 2007 at 09:27:32 PM
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| I saw the movie. I found it "interesting" and perhaps worthy of comtemplation. I also found that it can be a catalyst for discussion and debate. I did not see it as "giving answers", and I did see the bias against the things that the film makers had. In other words, it was a bit one sided, and there were too many "accusations" in it rather than putting the questions out, quoting sourses, and letting the viewer evaluate the information on his own. To me, it contains the same linear thinging that the "other side" has perfected, using carefully designed words and phrases, crying and complaining, without substance. It is just another conspiricy theroy movie, and to me, not because of it's content, but because of it's bias. Now...don't get me wrong. There are some very troubling "questions" that need to be answered. However, by asking them, I (personally) do not want to be linked with the "Truth Movement" crowd. I already got a label, and it is bad enough. Ma Salama |
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Jan. 27, 2008 at 08:04:36 PM
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| I hadn't seen that "Z" had responded to this and then went back and read her comment in one of azmods articles. Is she gone? Anywho . . . I watch another movie that wasn't quite so biased and wanted to pass it on "THE POWER OF NIGHTMARES" . . . a BBC documentary I do believe, and it pretty much gives you an (unfiltered)Idea or account of the dual nature of neoconism and middle eastern anti-american radicalism. Two peas in a pod they are. give it a watch
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Jan. 27, 2008 at 08:28:53 PM
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| Missed this article. Will watch and give comment tomorrow...if time permits. Sometime this week to be sure. |
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Ya know, I haven't been subjected to this one yet. It is on the internets, right? So I can watch as a streaming video. The truth is I'm getting tortured by so many activist films, stories of US soldiers and CIA agents behaving like the Gestapo, animal rights, children's issues, healthcare, and the background noise of Iraqi occupation; What is Zeitgiest about?
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