What Effect

At this point, the polling I've seen shows that Nader and McKinney (both left o center, stealing Obama votes) are drawing very few votes - less than 2% in any state. Plus, they aren't doing that well in any of the tight, battleground states.

But, Bob Barr (far right of the already far right McCain, but now a dogmatic, lunatic Libertarian paste eater) is pulling stronger numbers, up to 4% in some areas, and 6% in his home state GA. That puts GA into a battleground category, and can tip MT, SD, VA, FL, NC, and SC Obama's way.

Nearly every poll I've seen show's Nader outpolling Barr. Maybe with McKinney Nader's nubers would drop. This is the latest I've seen.

Polling Data

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/obama_vs_mccain_with_barr_nader-957.html#polls

That's a national poll, right? from Real Clear Politics?

here are some state stories

Zogby Poll: Barr 4%, McKinney 1%, Nader 1%

from the Zogby poll:

In the poll’s horserace question, Obama got a small bump out of the announcement, and now leads McCain, 46% to 44%, in a two-way contest, and leads 45% to 42% in a five-way contest including Libertarian candidate Bob Barr of Georgia, who won 4%, Green Party nominee Cynthia McKinney and liberal independent candidate Ralph Nader, both of whom won 1% support.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/175/story/51172.html

WASHINGTON — If the presidential race ends up being as close as polls are finding, third-party candidates now polling in single digits could emerge as potential kingmakers in battleground states.

Independent Ralph Nader, who earned the "spoiler" label for drawing votes from Democrat Al Gore in 2000, is a factor this time in such states as Nevada, New Mexico and Pennsylvania.

Libertarian Party candidate Bob Barr, meanwhile, who draws more support from Republicans, is a factor in Florida, North Carolina and New Hampshire.

For example, Barr's pulling 3 percent in North Carolina, according to a recent Zogby International poll — a potentially decisive margin in a reliably Republican state where Democrat Barack Obama is making a determined effort to compete.

"The fact that the race seems so close may very well throw North Carolina to the Obama camp, which I find astonishing," said Duke University political expert Mike Munger, who also is a Libertarian candidate for governor. "We're a Republican state in presidential elections."

In Florida, Republican presidential candidate John McCain pulled 43 percent in the Zogby poll, with Obama at 40%. But Barr, a former Republican congressman from Georgia, pulled 3 percent.

"Florida has a tradition of some free thinkers," said T. Wayne Bailey, political scientist at Stetson University in central Florida. "There's some feeling that Barr might impact McCain. . . . The X-factor is that McCain has not fully brought to the base his genuine conservative credentials."

First, off Zogby is a almost as big a tool as Rasmussen, so I discount his numbers, and figure a MOE close to 60%.

2nd, as I said before, the states where Nader can hurt Obama are likely already Obama's, NM, PA, NV. The states where Barr hurts McBush, FL, NH and NC, McBush needs FL and NC. You go to any of the EV interactive maps, and flip FL and NC to blue, and McSame needs every other battleground, plus 30 EVs

cro mag man says:  Other than guaranteeing Adam another four years to hold his breath, throw a tantrum and blame all that is wrong on whomever gets elected.

I DONT hold my breath, or like the CONserVERs  and Demos here, I dont throw tantrums....

And unlike YOU, I hold those that are elected AS RESPONSIBLE, whether they are part of the Red TEAMers, Blue TEAMers or someone else..

Idiots like YOU want to JUST blame the Blue TEAMers and LIARS like phake want to blame the Free MARKET...

IGNORANCE hurts the poor and middle class, the rich profit from both major parties...

As the Blue TEAM DEMS repealed Glass Stengal and started the current banking COLLAPSE by giving them the RIGHT by law to do what they have been doing.

the Red TEAM REPS are happy to BAIL them out with OUR money....

The Corporatists WIN, coming and going...