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Ok, I guess it's time for me to come in here and give my two cents. I have said it once and I'll say it again. Religion is out dated. I said Jesus was a man, nothing more, nothing less, and I say the same damn thing about Mohammed. Nothing better to keep the Arabs in the middle east stuck in the middle ages than to force feed Islam on them directly from the higher ups in their respective governments.
Those guys are far worse than the Christians we have running this country, because they don't want advancement, they want to keep people uneducated, and they want them wasting their valuable time protesting a stupid ass cartoon. Granted the higher ups over here don't want people educated either, after all, an uneducated, brainwashed and overall weak society is much easier to control than a powerful and knowledgable one.
When was the last time a scientific break through came out of the middle east... ya, I don't know either. You know why? Because the want to keep their hybrid oligarchy/theocracy in tact. That is one good thing about freedom of religion or lack there of, people are allowed to create and invent without the fear of being thrown in prison or killed because what they did goes against the teachings of the Koran.
Some of you may be disturbed by my lack of faith, and it's ok, you can believe in fairy tales and twisted history all you want... because I don't care. Let me tell you something though, I do indeed have faith, I have faith that science, technology and free thought will overcome the cowardice of the ruling classes of this world. It has to, people must evolve, and people will one day see through the smoke and mirrors that have been laid out for them for countless centuries.
So instead of claiming that a news company is insensitive for printing a cartoon in a country where freedom of press is the norm, why don't you try promoting education instead. I'm appalled that governments that support freedom of speech may actually be trying to accommodate those that are trying to force censorship on them through protest. For all you muslims over here that believe that the countries need to apologize and promise that they will never post cartoons of Mohammed in a negative light again, you shouldn't be so quick to give up the liberties earned by many heros both past and present.
That's what it's really about, it's just another ploy to encourage people to demand that their rights be stripped from them.
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RE: it isn't JUST the Cartoons !!
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Posted By: Normalized Vector Posted on: Feb. 11, 2006 at 12:23 PM  15 Comments
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Feb. 11, 2006 at 01:34:49 PM
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| If it's your way or the highway, Norm, and you reject religion altogether, what dog do you have in this fight?
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Feb. 11, 2006 at 02:05:25 PM
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| if christians had thier way the united states would be no better off than the middle east. im sure they wouldnt provide funding for proper education or advances in technology. you know, those things that have a slight chance of disproving gods existance or influence on humanity.
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Feb. 11, 2006 at 02:40:24 PM
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| Yo, you guys, is there any way a Christian can practice his religion in this country that wouldn't offend you? What if an Islamic country wants a Shi'a government? What about the democratic Palestinian elections that installed a Hamas government? Believe me, there's a real world out there that doesn't revolve around you! Thank god! |
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Feb. 11, 2006 at 03:13:44 PM
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| First of all june, I don't need a dog to fight my battles, especially one like you. You just continue on feeding your weak feeble mind with lies, fairy tales and embellished history. Oh.. and while your at it, you better put some thought into your comments before you post to me, cause I'll verbally abuse you for every uneducated comment you make towards me. Unlike you, I have an educated mind, and I know how to use it. As for you Akman, I'm not offended by any Christian in this country, or any other countries. Without the Christians, there wouldn't have been any crusades, the wars wouldn't have been as good reading, and there would be no Santa Clause. As we know, everyone loves Santa Clause, one of the most recognized men in the United States and he doesn't even exist. Again, you strayed from the point of this article and turned it into a bash the weak minded Christians debate. Another thing, you call it "practicing religion". So you mean that when you go to church you are actually getting better at Christianity? I highly doubt that. The only thing you are practicing is ignorance. In order to truly understand Christianity, you have move towards the history books, not the bible. Granted history has been tainted over the years by those trying to cover it up, but the truth exists, and you will not find truth in a book meant to persuade the sheep to do the bidding of the wolf. You people are so worried about what happens to you when you die you sit there and pray to a god which nobody knows for certain of the existence of said god. You waste countless hours and countless thoughts trying to serve this god, you deny your desires and ambitions out of fear of this god, and you fall pray to the people who use this god... to control you. You anti-bush zealots who think you are fighting the good fight against bush... there are much larger fish in the sea you need to worry about, and by you donating to the church, you are indeed helping the one you want so badly to oust. You are right though... The Earth does not revolve around me, it revolves around a giant nuclear fireball that has a mass of around 1.98892 × 10^30 kilograms. Your religion that you speak so highly of was created by men seeking power long before anyone was to figure out this fact. So with that said, let there be light. |
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Feb. 11, 2006 at 04:51:33 PM
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| the only people to practice a religeon were buddhist monks and voodoo folk. buddism has a deep connection to martial arts and amazing human feats and voodoo is ... well... its black magic. for anyone that is part of a religion that doesnt involve fighting or otherwise actual practice towards incredible abilities to say they "practice" something is simply absurd.
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Feb. 11, 2006 at 05:04:25 PM
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| the only people to practice a religeon were buddhist monks and voodoo folk. buddism has a deep connection to martial arts and amazing human feats and voodoo is ... well... its black magic. for anyone that is part of a religion that doesnt involve fighting or otherwise actual practice towards incredible abilities to say they "practice" something is simply absurd.
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Feb. 11, 2006 at 07:25:33 PM
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| it isn't JUST the Cartoons!! I believe the title of Zanubiya's article is consistent with his article. He clearly states there's no excuse for the violence the cartoons have spawned. He contends that arguing the legal merit of the freedom of expression is irrelevant when that freedom is consciously employed to impugn the integrity of an entire class of people. He argues that, beyond the legalities, other factors, such as self-responsible behavior, consideration of, and respect for, others must govern the exercise of personal freedoms if those freedoms are to be meaningful. Last, Zanubiya says he considers the cartoons to be part of a persistent and deliberate vilification and dehumanization process that characterizes Muslims as warmongers out to conquer the world. Now, Mr. Erudite, though you piggy-back on the title of Zanubiya's article, I see nothing here that even acknowledges the points he raises. Furthermore, as an well-educated person you may have heard of a metaphor somewhere but you failed to recognize my use of one. Let me express it differently. Since your article does little more than call believers stupid - those who believe in an afterlife and/or those who believe in the philosophical teachings we label as religion - and because you failed to address any of the issues Zanubiya raised, I was just asking what the point of your article was, i.e., what dog do you have in this fight? It's an old southern expression we barely-literate, down-home bible-thumpers use when we see someone acting out and don't understand why, that's all. No offense intended. |
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Feb. 12, 2006 at 07:41:28 AM
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| What the hell is the point of this article and all your rambling, Norm. Sounds like an acute case of Average American insecurity wrapped too-tight in base ten numbers spewing advertisements for himself. I thought your Santa Clause had grammatical comedic potential but you didn't followup on that either... |
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Feb. 12, 2006 at 01:47:06 PM
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| You want a point... the point was laid out for you in the first two sentences, Organized religion is obsolete. Protesting, bickering, fighting, killing and crying because some news paper printed a couple of cartoons about the prophet of a false religion shows the equivalent mentality of people in the middle ages. If they spent half the time they spend protesting and whining on advancement and technology, they would be better off. As far as the "people's feelings" go, I could care less, my mind works from a top down perspective and I didn't feel like dwelling that far down on the issue. because like I said, I don't care. I see the root of the problem, address that problem, and if that problem were taken care of, then everything else would fall into place. Organized religion is, and always has been the root of all the worlds' major problems. I wouldn't expect the 90% of the United States' population to understand, nor want to understand where I'm coming from. Most people need a security blanket, most people need to think they will have a happy after life. Most people need to think they have a deeper meaning in their boring lives. Most people think that there needs to be a purpose to their meaningless life... and most fail to ever find that purpose because they believe sooner or later that god will show it to them... And when they are lying on their death bed, they use all their processing power to look back on their life, and make up a purpose to their life where a purpose did not exist. I hate to break it to you, there is no meaning, there is no purpose, all you can do is live your life to the fullest and have a little fun while your at it. If you live by those guidelines, you just might make history, if you don't, you will be consumed by it. ps: is this a better representation? 620FB31FEB417800000000000000 grams |
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