The Senate Judiciary Committee voted on Monday to legalize the nation's 11 million illegal aliens and provide them with an eleven year path to citizenship.
The path for legalization of the nation's illegal aliens would invite them to work in the United States for six years before they could apply for permanent residency. They could then apply for citizenship five years after that. This proposed legislation was sent by the committee to the full Senate on a 12-to-6 vote (four Republicans and six Democrats).
The Senate Judiciary Committee also voted to create a vast temporary worker program that would open the gate for around 400,000 foreigners to enter the United States to work each year. This program, the second largest in American history, would also provide them with a path to citizenship.
The House earlier passed a bill that would make it a federal crime to be in this country illegally. This would have the effect of turning the millions of illegal aliens that have snuck across the border into felons. As such, they would be ineligible to win any legal status. As it is now, these illegal aliens are in violation of civil immigration law, but not criminal law.
The eclipse of Old Glory by the overwhelming number of Mexican flags being waved in those demonstrations over the last few days leaves this American citizen wondering just how important a path to citizenship is to these illegal interlopers anyway.
Maybe the American citizens who are, for the time being anyway, still in the majority should do a little waving of Old Glory under the noses of ”our representatives” inside the beltway. They seem to have forgotten where their votes come from.
In any event, any legislation that passes the Senate will have to be reconciled with the tough border security bill passed in December by the Republican-controlled House, which defied Bush's call for a temporary worker plan and amnesty.
Four of eight Republicans on the committee, and all six Democrats, voted for the bill. Conservatives on the committee warned of a groundswell of opposition among American citizens who have been demanding tighter borders and the containment of the waves of illegal immigration.
Good news for Republicans, though. This bill has overwhelming support from the Dimocrats. It looks like the Dimocrats have fired the first round of their six-shooter into their foot as their opening shot for the November elections.
Only in America.
Only in America: Welcome Mexican Flag Wavers
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Posted By: AZ Moderate Posted on: Mar. 28, 2006 at 6:27 PM |
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Apr. 8, 2006 at 11:47:07 PM
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| Is anyone taking bets on what the proportion of Mexican VS American flags displayed will be in Monday's drive?
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Apr. 9, 2006 at 09:03:27 AM
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| Now that the word is out, I woul dbet 50/50 or better US. They don't want to add to the backlash. Too late though.
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Apr. 9, 2006 at 11:32:39 AM
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| Flags? C'mon Mody… Arizonians are overheated, Congress is deadlocked, a hundred thousand are expected to gridlock PHX on Monday and the BAA Boy wants to bus'em all back to Lukeville. How about a National ID card, electronic chip implants, hooded sheets and coils of hemp rope? I've just finished rereading Sy Hersch's New Yorker articles in Akman's article, so be warned - I'm locked and loaded! What the hell do 11 million Mexican flagwavers matter when the White House is laying the groundwork to royally piss off 1.2 billion Muslims by launching an attack on Iran with "tactical nuclear weapons" - you know, the ones with pinpoint accuracy and limited radiation fallout? The Hersch articles are MUST-READ! If we'd had access to articles like those we'd never have allowed the invasion of Iraq! Switching soapboxes - immigration, having supplanted TV as the opiate for the masses, involves border security - t-h-e primary issue, in my humble opinion - and what to do about the illegal aliens who ostensibly provide the economic underpinnings to Arizona's service industries, California's fruit and veggie farms, Texas' quail-raising spreads and New Mexico's welfare system. Border security: I have first-hand knowledge that 40 years ago we were able heard every footfall and bicycle tire rolling over the Ho Chi Minh Trail. Today, we have satellites that can read the labels on the underwear I hang on my clothesline. The technology exists to effectively monitor the national land boundaries without laying one brick in a new Berlin Wall! The issue isn't how do we secure the borders, it's why haven't we? Aye, but the presence of illegal aliens presents such enormous problems as to defy resolution. That's why our politicians have reduced it to an exercise in jockeying for votes. And, I might add, it's the only reason that national ensigns have become a cause celebre' - politicians can count flags, Mexican-Americans know it. However, so can the neo-KKK. Mexican-Americans may be less sensitive to that point. Realistically, the polar options are send the illegals packing or grant them amnesty. If we decide to deport them, how do we do it? What's the carrot that will bring them forward voluntarily? These aren't strangers in a strange land, they're resourceful survivors. Do we just pass a law and sic the FBI and NSA eavesdroppers on the Latino community? Do we stake out the ERs and food banks? Does every demonstrator with a Mexican tri-color represent a potential cog in the Latino underground railroad that's sure to emerge? Ah, infiltration - like the Pentagon is infiltrating those Anti-War Quaker covens? Could use some help here - any ideas! The problem of locating those illegal offenders who don't come forward strikes me as overwhelming. That makes amnesty, involuntary servitude, economic slavery, whatever you want to call it, the only viable option I can think of. How about you? Rather count flags? |
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Apr. 9, 2006 at 01:10:47 PM
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| AZ Moderate, I've read your immigration articles wondering if you've thought of a position to take. Still thinking? Here, as elsewhere, you mention border security and the illegal immigrants in the same breathe but the focus seems to be on the disposition of the illegals. June's comment, also elsewhere, expressing doubt that the illegal immigrant issue wouldn't be settled before the November elections is beginning to make sense to me, particularly given the fate of the McCain-Kennedy bill. Looks to me like the issue has been reduced to politics as June contends. Without resolution, the hard-liners can do to their constituencies and argue that they've fought the good fight so far and promise victory (if re-elected). The bleeding-heart amnesty-granters can argue that deportation isn't a realistic option as Junie has done here. More Mexican flags on Monday should whip the deporter-supporters into a frenzy yet I think June's question is paramount - how do you do it? Me? I'm for deportation. It's simple, they're lawbreakers. Yet, I'm not prepared to permit more government intrusion into anyone's private life nor am I prepared to hock the family jewels to pull it off. |
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Apr. 10, 2006 at 11:17:30 PM
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| Seems like many of you in your comments are looking for a solution to the problem of the embedded illegal aliens in our society. How do we get them to surface? And then what do we do with them? The embedded illegal aliens in our nation certainly do present us with a conundrum. The solution is most certainly complex, and its breadth is defined by the polar options, as June so aptly states it, of deportation or amnesty. But in reality a solution that both sides might be able to live with embraces both polar options. What’s it costing our nation to have these illegal aliens in our national fabric? Consider both present cost and future cost. Present costs included suppression of wages for poor Americans, job competition with unskilled Americans, subsidized free medical treatment, education for their children, resident tuition for them that is denied American citizens, lost tax revenues due to under-the-table payroll transactions, etc. Future costs include such things as an accelerating flood of illegal entry because that behavior has been rewarded (yet again), anchor baby entitlement to citizenship, Mexico's increasing leverage in our soveriegn affairs, etc. Various estimates come in at hundreds of Billions of dollars, to possibly over the trillion dollar mark for identified costs, present and future. What would it be worth to lift them out of the fabric and wash them back to Mexico? How about making them an offer they can’t refuse? What about taking some of that hundreds of billions of dollars and setting up a reward-for-voluntary-deportation program? Furthermore, to light a fire under their butts, make the offer good for one month and limit it to the first ten million applicants, with of course believable guarantees if they come forward. If I were an illegal alien, and the United States government offered me $10,000.25 to come forward and be deported, and a stipend of $5,000.00 per year for the next ten years as long as I stayed home in Mexico, I would probably seriously consider it. In fact, the way things are going to hell in this country under the present “leadership”, I might even consider it if it were offered to me, so long as I can chose a destination other than Mexico, which is a Hell of a lot worse off. My guess is that such a program would immediately and decisively reduce the Mexican contingent of the illegal alien population in our country to a much more digestible size. And at a cost, amortized over ten years, of a mere $600,000,000,000.39, an amount that we have frittered away to no good end over the last three years in Iraq. Now the details would have to be worked out of course. But here are some seed suggestions: o Individually they would have to agree to finger printing, a signed statement that they would not enter the United States illegally (legally is OK), a penalty of $5,000.00 in the form of a withheld stipend each time they do, and so on. o On our part, we would have to have the will and commit the resources to control the full length of the border to keep them honest. That would have to be an up-front effort, in place and fully operational before offering the deal to the illegal aliens. If the border has not been secured first, the whole thing is money flushed down the toilet, because these people will shortly be replaced by a new flood eager to get in on the next anticipated round of deals. In summary: 1. Slam the door shut tight (or at least as tight as humanely possible); 2. THEN offer them a lucrative (by poor Mexican standards) one-way ticket home (an offer they can't refuse)to greatly reduce their numbers amongst us; 3. THEN negotiate a realistic worker program of some flavor to satisfy LEGITIMATE DEMONSTRATABLE economic and humane concerns; 4. while strictly enforcing the law-of-the-land already on the books. How’s that for a possible solution? |
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