Nanny State or Justice?
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Posted By: Average American Posted on: Aug. 11, 2008 at 6:14 PM |
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As I was driving home this afternoon after putting in 11 hours I came upon one of the local talk stations. The debate this 15 minute segment (something I do not like about Nevada radio, you only get 15 minutes or so per topic then they are off to the next one which is only one of the many reasons I am considering returning to radio, especially in this talent shallow market) was about a local congressman of some local fame who is wanting to pass a bill in the state requiring the parents of those children caught tagging (spray painting or now markering metal) to pay the child's fines. I thought, "This made radio?".
So I listened more intently as I drove my 5400 lbs of imported oil guzzling Tahoe down the equally oil soaked streets of Sin City. There was more, oh so much more.
This dipstick wants not only to have the kids parents pay the fines, but with no payment options: all or nothing. I thought, "That's less fair, but at least they aren't making the parents do the kids community service if they can't pay the fine.
Whaaaaaaaaaaamo! That was the next thing out of the hosts mouth. It seems that is exactly what congressman no name wants to do. To hell with the Constitution preventing you from doing the time if you didn't do the crime not to mention the lack of adjudication of the crime period against those who will be forced to pay in none monetary ways. Where did this guy come from I thought to myself.
So the questions are simple:
1. Is this kind of parental punishment constitutional in your eyes?
2. Is this the state's way of making sure parents watch their kids?
3. Is this plain old fashion communistic beating down of anyone they (the STATE) feels should be punished for being poor?
4. Is this OK with you because parents should be responsible for their kids screw ups even if it means doing their time for them?
I have real problems with this. Why have a Juvenile Court System if we are going to punish the parent. and while I agree that parents should without a doubt be monetarily responsible for damaged created by their kids, I do not believe they should do juniors time whether in jail or in some lessor community repayment requiring time away from their jobs. Lock the little bastards up for a week.
But what would I know; I'm just an Average American.
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Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:27:49 PM
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| Paying the fine . . . absolutely. Doing the time . . . no. I have a suggestion for a business name and motto. How about Average Achiever Associates - We Earn the Gentlemen's C in Service |
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Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:31:40 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by www.MoronInCharge.com on Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:27:49 PM]
www.MoronInCharge.com
Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:27:49 PM Paying the fine . . . absolutely. Doing the time . . . no. I have a suggestion for a business name and motto. How about Average Achiever Associates - We Earn the Gentlemen's C in... View this Comment How about: Average Achiever Associates - We almost wrote a book about Service. |
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Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:39:22 PM
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| Ahhh! It was only a matter of time before that came up again. Well it is nearly done. I have had to rewrite a few chapters to make it more current. It's release will be timed for the next Congressional election cycle where it will surely be picked up by a candidate and used to reclaim the Congress. NOT. The time part is true, but the only candidate using it as a blue print will be me. I figure is "Audacity of Hope" can propel Obama to the national stage, then "Yep your taxes are way too High" will at least propel me to the State House. |
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Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:42:42 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by Average American on Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:39:22 PM]
Average American
Aug. 11, 2008 at 08:39:22 PM Ahhh! It was only a matter of time before that came up again. Well it is nearly done. I have had to rewrite a few chapters to make it more current. It's release will be timed for the next Congressional election cycle where it will surely be picked... View this Comment How long do you have to be a resident of Nevada before you can run for the statehouse? |
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Aug. 12, 2008 at 08:46:03 AM
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| Answers 1. My Senator Robert Byrd pocket Constitution says nothing about "do the crime, do the time" - does yours"? That would explain a lot! 2. Yup! 3. "communistic" - with a small 'c' - punishing people for being poor? Get real, BAA Boy! Punishing the poor - financially, socially, politically - is an integral element of the modern NeoConservative philosophy. It's inherent in their vocabulary - punish THEM to protect/promote US! 4. Interesting whackjob logic - I'm sure it will receive extensive treatment in your forever-forthcoming 'I Was A Shill For The NeoCon-WarMonger Machine'! |
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Aug. 12, 2008 at 11:29:56 AM
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| I believe that parents are already liable civilly for their minor children's actions. If your little angel throws a ball thru the neighbors' window, or tags a freeway underpass, Mommy and Daddy already get the bill. As for community service, or other criminal actions, unless the parents can be shown to be aiding or conspiring then they can't be constitutionally held criminally at fault. A few years ago, some teen in Paradise Valley was got tagging a freeway, and the Police found the parents had built a brickwall, in their backyard, with stucco on one side, cement on the other, for little Junior to practice his art form. They did get the book thrown at them. |
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