Junior Varsity Wins Iowa
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Posted By: Average American Posted on: Jan. 3, 2008 at 10:25 PM |
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These are the winners of tonight's Iowa Caucus.
Democrats: Obama 38% Edwards 30% and Hillary 29%
Republicans: Huckabee 34% Romney 25% Thompson 13% McCain 13%
With 99% reporting this is pretty much the final on todays Iowa Caucus.
The winners here are the back ups, special teams, Junior Varsity players in this thing. And that's not to say that either party is running their best to begin with. But Hillary must be pissing her panties over this along with Romney. Let's face it, Giuliani never expected to do much in Iowa so I doubt he is too very surprised.
But the question has to be asked, what the hell happened here? Huckabee stomped Romney into the dirt; Romney undoubtedly along with Giuliani is considered by most to be Varsity for the Republicans. Obama handed Hillary her ass on a platter and there is no doubt that Hillary is considered the only Varsity player for the Democrats. Even little Johnny Edwards surprised the anointed Mrs. Clinton by placing ahead of her.
So what does all mean? Is this the anti-establishment movement finally coming to fruition? You know what I mean, the old," Americans want an outsider in office, someone who doesn't play the Washington Game."
Or do we assume as many did when the Republicans first won control of congress after more than 40 years back in 1996, "American had a temper tantrum." Or at least Iowa...
These guys who won are the people we refer to as footnotes in history 20 years from now. Once Super Tuesday hits next month these two will be history. Few who have won Iowa in my lifetime (I will admit it has been brief compared to some of those fellows here who are long in the tooth and far more deeply steeped in their history) have gone on to win the Presidency. In fact the last two to do so by party was Carter in '76 and Bush 41 in 2000. (Ford won it in '76 also but ultimately lost out Carter) This of course does not count Clinton's, Bush 43's or Reagan's re-election campaigns considering they were unopposed in the years they won.
Iowa is a poor barometer for the election. But beyond that, it is a nothing state that just caused Biden and Dodd to pull the rip cord and bail out. Over flipping Iowa?Come on, these two were never in the running anyway, but what a waste to lose two guys who, either one mind you, has more experience than Hillary, Obama and Edwards combined. I bet Richardson is betting on gaining their meager percentage point in New Hampshire. Then he too will pull cord and bail out.
On the right nobody yet has announced its over, but the sun has not came up and the donations have not yet dried up as a result of Iowa. Watch them too cut those who roamed too far from the protection of the heard.
And what the hell is going on on the TV? These guys are taking this seriously, as if Iowa matters. They are calling it as if there has been some fundamental restructuring of the entire political system in this country. They know the history, they report it. Whether it's Fox, CNN, MSNBC, they all act as if what happened tonight is based on the peoples desire for the country to be governed by the truly unexperienced.
What a joke. This is why primaries like elections need to be held on the same day, at least regionally.
When the second strong contestants, and that's what these "winners" are, contestants not really candidates for the highest office in the land, and the press gives it credence beyond its historic importance, you know there is a problem with this country and the presses belief of how powerful they are. Everyone knows that Iowa does little more than squarely paint the target on the newly anointed ones back. These guys, both of them regardless of party, should be wearing insult and flack resistant vests. Those who hate Giuliani and or Romney or Mrs. Bill Clinton might just get the s*** scared out of them over the next few weeks as all attention focuses on Huckabee and Obama allowing these other three to quietly slip from under the intense gaze of the both the press and each other.
Ahhhhhhhhh, An election year... Let the games and smears begin.
But what would I know; I'm just an Average American.
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Jan. 3, 2008 at 11:12:20 PM
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| AA I think we are beginning to see the collective quickening of our young people to action. They see past the fear and division that have gripped this nation for too long. I think we are seeing that charater matters, in both the Democratic, and the Republican winners here. People want a message of hope, and people who stand strong, and without wavering in what they believe. I also think that these primaries are over rated, but they do set a tone, and a momentium, not necessarily for the winning candidates, but how our young people are energized and work for a fundemental change in governance, in direction, and in what they want this country to stand for when they are as old as me. I think this excersize speaks more to the losers, and thier supporters than it does about the winners. The fact that it was a hands down victory, and that record numbers of participants took the time to get involved say to me that our candidates will have to stand on issues that are not "over there". It says alot about what what we are told is not always believed, as the truth be told in "for sale" signs, and at the petrol stations. Bread and butter will be more important than bombs and bullets. Congradualtions to Mike Hukabee, and Barak Obama. |
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Jan. 3, 2008 at 11:40:46 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by Average American on Jan. 3, 2008 at 10:36:07 PM]
Average American
Jan. 3, 2008 at 10:36:07 PM And what about Ron Paul? 10%! That's more than Richardson, Dodd and Biden got combined. Should this guy not be considered at least every bit as viable as McCain who only pulled 3 points more than... View this Comment Let's hear it for Ron Paul. As a born and raised Republican, and a veteran Barry Goldwater campaigner, he resonates with me. Unfortunately, Double A, as the only real Republican Conservative true to the traditional GOP, he hasn't a chance of a snowball in Phoenix. So I am supporting John Edwards (or anyone but the probable Republican nominee.) Stahd bye for an article on this, my friend. |
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Jan. 4, 2008 at 08:08:11 AM
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| There's a symmetry here - the average American farmer speaks, BAA Boy bleats about B Teams. HOPE+FIGHT=WIN
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Jan. 4, 2008 at 09:33:12 AM
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| First off, did anyone notice that over 220,000 Iowan Dems turned out on a nasty cold night, to caucus for 2 hours. More than double the Republotards. Next, Obama's victory speech was on the level of a Bobby Kennedy, FDR type speech. I wasn't big on Obama, until that speech. This guy could be the one to usher in the next Liberal era of US politics - remember the rules in driving, if you want to move backwards select R, to move forward you gotta select D. Also, it is true that Iowa doesn't always select the eventual winner, it does kill the ones who got no juice. So buh-bye Dodd, Biden, Gravel. On the other side, Ron Paul got 10%. Whoopdie-doo. There are 5% of the US public who are paste eating libertarians. That 10%, of the R's, is what, 4% of the overall IA caucus votes? Next, Guiliani placed behind Dead Fred Thompson, in 5th place. Saying it is all about FL is fine, if FL was 2nd, or 3rd. But getting your ass kicked in IA, then NH, then SC, then NV... now you're going for broke in FL? Stick a fork in him, Guiliani is done. Romney, I had a talk a year ago with my manager (Republican Christian Fundie - but reality based from TX), and a coworker (rep, from upstate NY) and they were slagging all the Dems- no Senator can win, no women, no one named Hussien, Breck Girl, blah, blah, blah. So I asked, who does the right have? And NY guy said Romney, he's a Gov, rich, white, looks like a Pres, etc. I mentioned to the Manager, "so, buddy, can you ever vote for a Mormon?" The answer was no. With half of primary voters being Christian fundies, Romney's out. That leaves the righties with McCain, or Huckabee. So, at this point, the Dems can run Hillary with Gravel and skate to a win. |
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Jan. 4, 2008 at 11:04:51 AM
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| The coverage of the Iowa caucus was disturbing to say the least. I agree with AA that the media basically has painted what we can expect for the run for the White House. Is Iowa that representative of this Country? I think not! It is now going to interesting how the media paints the picture for New Hampshire. They already have their satellite trucks in place to capture any morsel that they deem news worthy. On a side note, did anyone catch KTAR last night. Ankarlo was live inside one of the caucuses and it was rather interesting! I had never heard an inside accounting of what goes on and listened to the people shuffle around the room to finalize their caucus. Pretty cool! We still need to have a different process to elect a President...bottom line. When Romney can go in and spend 6 million dollars on one state to try and sway the vote, we have a problem with the system. Odds are, the best candidate for the office is not a millionaire. It currently is a game that only millionaires can play. Kind of leaves the common folk (the great majority of the Country) out of this process. |
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Jan. 4, 2008 at 06:14:08 PM
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| Free Thinker, I can only agree with you that the media is doing it's darnedest to ensure that they have access to the winner at the end of this process, regardless of who wins. Sad commentary indeed on the state of the election process. By the way, you have done some great work of late and I have enjoyed reading your stuff. Don't disappear on us again. You have a uniquely centrist view of things even though as you admit you were Biden, a truly qualified man who would most likely have done a fine job of running the country despite my disagreements with him on many policies. I wish I could convey my thoughts with more neutrality at times. But if I did Adam would just claim "Wolf in Sheep's Clothing" so why waste my breath. |
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Jan. 4, 2008 at 06:19:41 PM
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| O.K. Free Thinker. The question you should be asking yourself now is: What does AA want from me? You just got more buttered up than a butterball turkey. Beware! I think he likes you. He wants to kiss you . . .
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Jan. 4, 2008 at 06:41:17 PM
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[This is a reply to comment by www.MoronInCharge.com on Jan. 4, 2008 at 06:19:41 PM]
www.MoronInCharge.com
Jan. 4, 2008 at 06:19:41 PM O.K. Free Thinker. The question you should be asking yourself now is: What does AA want from me? You just got more buttered up than a butterball turkey. Beware! I think he likes you. He wants to kiss you . .... View this Comment MIC, You jealous little minx... I like you still too. There, fight off that reputation... |
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Jan. 5, 2008 at 12:28:50 AM
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[This is a reply to comment by www.MoronInCharge.com on Jan. 4, 2008 at 06:19:41 PM]
www.MoronInCharge.com
Jan. 4, 2008 at 06:19:41 PM O.K. Free Thinker. The question you should be asking yourself now is: What does AA want from me? You just got more buttered up than a butterball turkey. Beware! I think he likes you. He wants to kiss you . .... View this Comment If the winners were the B team;that would make you the Z - team, Right AA? |
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That's more than Richardson, Dodd and Biden got combined. Should this guy not be considered at least every bit as viable as McCain who only pulled 3 points more than Paul?
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