In Dubious Battle
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Posted By: prometheus Posted on: Sep. 7, 2007 at 10:24 PM |
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I am thinking that the Mexican truckers who'll be coming across the border in their duct taped together rigs are going to be in for more than they bargained! And I hope for them it isn't to ugly! BACK IN THE DAY . . . people who crossed picket lines risked everything in order to make a paycheck! Murdering scabs was common occurrence! And also American workers who went on strike and formed picket lines risked being fragged by the companies they worked for. My point is . . . THIS IS BIG! Making a decent wage in America keeps continually getting harder and harder! The brass ring always harder to find. And now, are these good hard working American folks just going to keep quiet, Sit back and let foreigners ride in and steal it all away? I doubt it. When you are in this country in a big truck . . . there are few places to park . . . Rest areas, exit/on ramps and American truck stops! A Mexican truck alone, at best is going to have its tires slashed! They will be vulnerable at every turn, at every point along the way! All Mexican trucks towed back across the border from any of the 50 states will help put this stupid plan out of commission in a matter of weeks. Without the American politicians support! The workers will be left to police the workforce on the highways themselves! And I hope they only run them back to their own country (tails ~tween their legs) . . . without anybody actually being hurt! I doubt it though! Go into any truck stop and look at the rugged folks inside! They are a very clannish lot and possibly only one rung up the evolutionary ladder from Hells Angel!
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Sep. 8, 2007 at 10:24:44 AM
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| Um, well I'm confused as to what you are asking us to do: go English only, protect Mexican truck drivers, bar Mexican truck drivers? I understand that Phaedrus is worried about an angry backlash directed at anybody driving a Mexican plated truck, and there will be one, but you seem to be readressing the broader issue of immigration policy Zan. What exactly are you advocating and proposing?
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Sep. 8, 2007 at 10:55:45 AM
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| Bar Mexican truckers from our roads. Anyone think the Mexican trucking companies will have the same safety, or vehicle standards of US trucks? They will be targets at all US truck stops, and their trucks will get sabotaged. This is all part of the Conservative Republican war on America's middle class. Truck driving is the last place where a guy with no skills can make middle class income. All they gotta do is know how to drive a truck. (Now I am sure someone will rant that truck driving is tough, blah blah blah - but anyone can learn it in 2 weeks) Bringing in Mexicans to do it is designed to drive down US truckers' wages. So congratulations AA, another middle class group is destroyed, maybe you guys can now go after nurses, or policemen. |
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Sep. 8, 2007 at 11:05:47 AM
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| MiC You see, my problem in the store is related to the problem we might face as these non English speakers cross our borders and can go anywhere they want in our country. Sure, my little auto part may not seem important to you, but then those behind the counter were not driving a big transport truck either. I guess what I see here is that now every one of us will be affected by non english speakers. We all drive on the roads, we all are exposed to the big trucks on those roads, and all of us could be put in danger of a non english speaker failing to understand a street sign, or not understanding the various highway rules of each state. Yes, I say that at least the Mexican truckdrivers who cross into the US take the same test, in English that the truckdrivers must take in the US. Remember, not even to the regular American citizen, is driving a right. Why should an American truckdriver have a burden placed on him that foriegn nationals do not? However, I see this as another form of "outsoursing". Perhaps this will lead to bipassing American docking stations all together in favor of Mexican ones where the labour is cheaper. Tell me MiC, in all of the outsoursing of jobs...can you mention a product or service where the labour saving has been passed to the consumer? |
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Sep. 9, 2007 at 08:02:07 AM
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| Wait just a damn minute. Don't you go pinning this one on me. I am 110% on your side when it comes to Trucks running on American soil that have drivers without an understanding of the language, questionable at best safety and up keep on the trucks not to mention the nuances of American Trucker life on the road. Yes that last one counts. There are unwritten rules to the open road in this country. I am all for taking them out before they get here. I am for one advocating for the complete and total block of all good delivered by there trucks. Any company using these trucks as a means of transport within the US should be banned. Period. These units should be disabled by anyone with the means at truck stops, behind buildings and anywhere else you can catch one. If they wanted to do this they should have required that all driver speak English, that they must hold an American Drivers license from at least one state showing they understand our laws, they trucks must pass out DOT inspection as well as the drivers, their log books and their trailers, and that every single driver has passed the Immigration back ground check. Every truck should also be searched inside and out as it passes through the boarder, a complete unpack and repack. But they did not do this so f*** them. Do what you have to do Prometheus, I and a great number of conservatives (true conservatives, not these bunch of Republicans who control this s*** and unfortunately our once Grand party for the moment) are behind you fully. I hate this crap and intend to do what I can to end it ASAP. Prometheus, I give you a solid 10 for this article. |
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Sep. 9, 2007 at 08:57:13 AM
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| I am just an observer and am advocating nothing. But, I know trouble is probably brewing for some. Also, A.A. I already knew we were sort of on the same side of the border on this issue (thanks for the ten, but I don't care). Phaedrus had some excellent points though!
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Sep. 9, 2007 at 09:52:08 AM
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| But they did not do this so f*** them. Do what you have to do Prometheus, I and a great number of conservatives (true conservatives, not these bunch of Republicans who control this s*** and unfortunately our once Grand party for the moment) are behind you fully. Yeah Prometheus. You get out their and sabatoge those trucks! And just know, that when you are in jail, AA and his conservative buddies will tie a yellow ribbon on a tree to support you. Remind anyone else of the Iraq war? Ok AA, and the rest. What do we do to stop this? It is apparent that our government is not listening to us anymore. AA, would you and your conservative buddies stand side by side with Teamsters to protest this? |
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Sep. 9, 2007 at 01:31:59 PM
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| indie... I think our truckdrivers will "stop this" in their own way. When you hear the country western singer's "Trucker's Anthem" (what ever song may be in the works), you will know that they are hard at work, in their own way, fighting against this latest attempt to "outsource". And ya know...I support them too. I understand. |
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Sep. 9, 2007 at 06:04:10 PM
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| A.A. and I are on the same side of the border on this one (with differences). I am PRO LABOR . . . While A.A. is anti-Mexican. Same cause just diffrent reasons
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Sep. 9, 2007 at 07:07:54 PM
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| promethus I don't think AA is "anti Mexican" as much as he is "anti illegal alien" Here in Arizona, most of the illegal aliens are hispanic. So yes...it may seem, because he refers to the illegal alien within the context of our reality here in Arizona, and our closest "threat" is the southern border, I guess I see it differently. I am "anti illegal alien" also. I am also "pro labour". |
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Yesterday...I went into an auto parts store for the "hairy one" He wrote down what he needed understanding that the wife is an AAA Plus card carrying member for a damned good reason. All around the store were signs telling people to "ask if they need help in Spanish". To me, this is all good, except I, an English speaker, could not find help in English. I can speak Spanish, but not enough to describe the autopart, and no one could help me because believe it or not no one in the store could read what my husband wrote. A "godsent customer" was able to help me get the part by explaining it to the counter person in Spanish. I guess I was angry too. Then I saw this article and I had to respond. I guess this is my turning point in understanding the frustration of those who see this as a "troublesome" path we are heading for. When I saw the American store, with the American name, owned by an American company where we speak English everyday, and could find no one in that store to read a simple few words in English...I got the point.
This may be the point in which the tide turns against the "administration", and possibly the Democrats if they do not take a public stand against this. American people who drive trucks are one of a breed who have been "glorified" in legend and song. They are the American version of the everyman because of their diversity. Unlike other heros, Americans fully understand what they do, and how valuable they are to us. Their value is not "idological" in nature, and is not represented by flags and righteous words. Their value to America is tangable when we go to the grocer, or order a product. If one works in a factory, he watches as the product he put his hands to is loaded onto the transport, and trusted to a man who may not have a well defined body, or dressed in a suit, but a man more common to us in our daily life. A man who looks like our neighbour.
Well sisters and brothers, now it is us. When the men who drive trucks stop delivering the goods and services in protest...we will suffer. When they block the roads with their trucks...we will suffer. When they have to resort to "less peaceful" means to hold on to their jobs and go to jail...we will suffer. The first time a Mexican truckdriver can't read a traffic sign and destroys a family...it could be yours.
And if we sit on our duffs and keep letting the "administration" internationalize our jobs, pretty soon you won't have to worry about calling India to get service, it will be in your postal code.
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