I'm here to stir up trouble! Here we go again!!

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Posted on: Jun. 28, 2006 at 1:23 PM

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GOVERNMENT LINKS PROVING CONGRESS GAVE ILLEGALS THE VOTE, AND IT'S SIGNED INTO LAW PLUS A LOOPHOLE THAT GIVES THEM PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP

PLEASE READ THIS, VERIFY IT FOR YOURSELF WITH THE GOVERNMENT LINKS I PROVIDE OR VERIFY IT ON YOUR OWN. THEN GET MAD, GET VERY MAD, AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT !

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I have had this confirmed at the County, State, and Federal level. In each instance I was told that what I found was correct, and in each instance I was given the same "defense" of this lunacy (law)
At each level I was told "Yes that can be done, but if someone got caught doing it they would get in trouble"

THIS IS A MAJOR NATIONAL SECURITY RISK !

I doubt Mohammad Atta would have been concerned about the ramifications of checking a box on a form, I doubt Al Qaeda would be concerned, and I highly doubt the 20 million illegals who have snuck into this country and use someone else's SS number for employment (which is felony identity theft and felony document fraud) would hesitate to check a box on a form.

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AND Per the Federal elections paralegal who confirmed what I found, this also leads to proof of U.S. citizenship when combined with a loophole in the I-9 legislation. I have verified the voter registration and voting end of this only. How to verify the I-9 end is included below.

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In 2002 Congress passed the Help America Vote Act. 49 of 50 states have now conformed to HAVA. Arizona is being sued to force them to conform to HAVA. Arizona is the only state that requires proof of citizenship to register to vote.
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FROM FLORIDA ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF ELECTIONS

“When Congress passed HAVA, it specifically required states to get the driver’s license number or the last four digits of the applicant’s social security number and to verify that number. However, Congress specifically provided for applicants who did not have one of those numbers to be registered. ”
“Congress has also prohibited states from requiring proof of a person’s eligibility (for example, birth certificate or naturalization papers) in order to register to vote.”

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HERE IS HOW IT'S DONE

By Law – Anyone who is undocumented MUST be accepted as a Registered United States Voter as long as they check the box on the voter registration form claiming to be a U.S. Citizen.

Each state wrote their own laws to conform to HAVA so the legal terminology and voter registration forms differ but the end result is the same in 49 of 50 states.

1) By Law - It is required that Citizenship of a new voter be verified through the applicant marking the box claiming to be a U.S. Citizen when registering to vote, but it is ILLEGAL to request a birth certificate, or Naturalization papers.

2) By Law - It is ILLEGAL to verify Citizenship of a new voter at the time of voting. (at polling place)

3) By Law - When registering to vote, if anyone checks the box claiming to be a U.S. citizen but has no ID, THEY MUST be accept as a registered US voter.

I found this in Florida’s laws first and here it is called the "none" provision, other states call it other things, but the result is the same.

Once you use the "none" provision you automatically receive a voter registration card and your state issues you an official voter number to identify you.

Once you have your voter registration card with voter number in hand you must vote in person in most states. At that time you must bring your identification with you to vote, BUT since you registered under the "NONE" provision you are allowed to use a non-government and non-official ID

Under federal law each state can decide which non-official ID to accept at the time of voting if you registered under the "none" provision, but BY LAW it can ONLY be used to verify a match of the name on your voter registration card at time of voting, it CAN NOT be used to verify citizenship.

For example: FL accepts a Sam's club card (among other things) but not a utility bill, However IL accepts a utility bill (among other things) but not a Sam's club card.

The federal law requires each state to accept ONE of several non-official ID's, but each state can pick which and how many to choose from.

The trouble is these non-official non-government ID's can be made by any 6th grader on their home computer.

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WHY ONLY 49 AND NOT 50 STATES?

Per the Federal Elections Paralegal I spoke with Arizona is the one state that doesn't conform to Federal Law as they require real and solid proof of citizenship, BUT this official said there are challenges to this in court.

When I asked this official straight out what the chances were of AZ being forced to conform the short reply was "soon it will be all 50 states".

What unofficial ID does your state accept to cast a vote, a Sam's club card, a utility bill, a workers badge from any company, a comic book subscription ?

Some states tell you straight out, but some hide it. Some require nothing at all. You will find it written into your states legislation. I have supplied links to a few below.

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The Federal Elections Paralegal I spoke with (who had over 20 years experience) confirmed undocumented foreign nationals ARE registering, but not with intent to vote (yet) What they are doing with their registered US voter number is putting it onto an I-9 form and due to a loophole in the I-9 legislation that form then becomes accepted government proof of citizenship.

This official stated that it is VERY important for anyone researching the I-9 mess to read the I-9 legislation completely, BEFORE and AFTER revisions to understand what congress did.

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BELOW ARE THE OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT LINKS TO SEVERAL STATES "NONE" PROVISION

If a link does not work when you click on it just open a second browser and cut and paste the complete link into your second browser.

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FLORIDA

Florida tells you straight out to write "None" on your registration form as an ID (other states hide it or use different terminology)

Below is a link to the Florida site that says it straight out, read "To Register You Must" , and at the bottom of the same page you can get the actual registration form.

This is where I started and why I call it the "none" provision.

http://election.dos.state.fl.us/regtovote/regform.shtml

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ALABAMA

Alabama registration form states "SS number is requested but not required"

http://www.sos.state.al.us/downloads/election/vr/nvra-2.pdf

Alabama "None" provision written in bill # SB158
(with link to complete bill below)

"(b) Where an applicant for voter registration is unable to produce either a driver's license number, a non-driver's identification number, or the last four digits of the Social Security number, the state voter registration list shall assign a unique number which shall serve as the registrant's voter registration identification number. "§17-4-215 17-4-37.

http://alisdb.legislature.state.al.us/acas/searchableinstruments/2006rs/bills/sb158.htm

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ILLINOIS

Here is the Illinois voter registration form with the "none" provision.

http://www.elections.il.gov/Downloads/VotingInformation/PDF/R-19.pdf

Here is a link to the Illinois House Bill HB071 , read Page 1 line 29 to Page 2 line 8.

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/94/HB/09400HB0715eng.htm

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ARKANSAS

AR law states that if you use "none" for ID on a voter registration form you are automatically supplied an official state issued voter number, period.

Link to AR bill, read line J

http://www.sos.arkansas.gov/ar-constitution/arcamend51/arcamend51-6.htm

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FEDERAL FORM

Federal registration form , read "Box 6 - ID Number" instructions.

http://www.fec.gov/votregis/pdf/nvra.pdf

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I can go on and on .... for 49 states.

VERIFY THIS YOURSELF, THEN DO SOMETHING !

SEND THIS TO ALL THE NEWS AGENCIES YOU CAN

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J.W. SHELTON aka THE PATRIOT

Jun. 28, 2006 at 02:39:47 PM

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Nice to see all the haters out there!

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Average American

Jun. 28, 2006 at 04:10:48 PM

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This is why you should have to show I.D. to register and show I.D. to vote.

If that makes me racist, I'm proud to be.

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AZ Moderate

Jun. 28, 2006 at 08:27:24 PM

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Good to see you again JW. Excellent detail work. Keep it coming.

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www.MoronInCharge.com

Jun. 28, 2006 at 09:56:53 PM

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Very informative JW. Impressive research and an eye-opener. I see this more as a subversion of the fair voting process than a national security risk, unless there are enough Mohammad Atta's trying to vote to swing the election to the write-in Islamic Wahabist candidate. Nonetheless, the fraud is serious and necessitates a more uniform - dare I say Federal - regulation of the voter registration process. What do you propose as a solution, a standardized ID requirement for registration and voting across all 50 States?

While this issue is a grave concern, I believe the even larger concern is the failure to renew the Voting Rights Act. Without this law in place, it is legal to discard votes and challenge without cause the registration of large blocks of voters - the same activities that were rampant during the 2000 and 2004 elections. Rather than correct the abuses, Congress has decided it would be easier to do away with the law that made these practices illegal in the first place. No law, no crime. Brilliant.

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J.W. SHELTON aka THE PATRIOT

Jun. 28, 2006 at 10:02:38 PM

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You wrote "I see this more as a subversion of the fair voting process than a national security risk, unless there are enough Mohammad Atta's trying to vote to swing the election to the write-in Islamic Wahabist candidate."<<<<
I agree I should have never posted this article.

1. It acomplishes nothing and
2. I think i just gave illegals the path to citezenship....sorry I would like it removed!

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www.MoronInCharge.com

Jun. 28, 2006 at 10:15:00 PM

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"I agree I should have never posted this article."

???

I'm not sure if this is contrition, sarcasm, or defeat. I hope neither. Probably dry humor. I gave you a 10 for another in-depth piece of reporting.

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J.W. SHELTON aka THE PATRIOT

Jun. 28, 2006 at 11:17:07 PM

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No sarcasm here MIC. I really should not have posted the article! Thanks anyway...

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ChrisAndy

Jun. 29, 2006 at 10:43:09 AM

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J.W. SHELTON aka THE PATRIOT, keep stirring.

Great groundwork.

But your articles are sometimes a bit lengthy. That might blunt your message with some people in our busy busy age.

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J.W. SHELTON aka THE PATRIOT

Jun. 29, 2006 at 10:56:34 AM

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I was thinking the same thing chrisandy..a bit lengthy....I asked to webmaster to remove this article

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Phaedrus

Jun. 29, 2006 at 01:39:32 PM

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Wow, the power of the internet in the paws of small primates...

First, each state verifies the list of registered voters against a database of US Citizens. And in Arizona, before they passed the voter ID requirement, they could only find 4 questionable voters, who upon further investigation were ALL US Citizens. One was so old that they didn't have social security number, the others had names on their voter id that didn't match their legal name (ie, Bob instead of Robert). And some states even go so far as to scrub out wanted felons and ex-cons names from voter lists, but they predominantly only scrub blacks off the rolls. And any other black from the same district with similar names.

Second, the voter ID law in AZ does not require vote by mail to have legal ID.

Third, the federal law against requiring ID, poll taxes, grandfather tests, or eligibilty comes from the Jim Crow era, and is going to only be used to keep brown and black skinned people from voting. So yes AA, its racist, but not not overtly.

The lovely thing about this attempt is it'll drive hispanic voters to the polls, and 95% of them will vote Dem.

Once again, for those scoring at home, non-citizens don't get to vote, the lists are matched by the State Secretary's office and the County Recorders do the work here in AZ.

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