$600 million shortfall?
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Posted By: Average American Posted on: Dec. 24, 2007 at 11:24 AM |
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Two years ago the state of Arizona had a 1 billion dollar surplus. Actual money on hand, not a surplus like the bogus one President Clinton claimed at the end of his term that was on paper and based on no changes ever happening regarding his future plans, which was stupid for anyone to ever consider that the economy was going to stay exactly as it was, along with spending, natural and national disaster and a war. But people bought his story anyway, while here in Arizona we had no story, we had a billion dollars.
At the time I wrote that this money should be returned to tax payers with a percentage being held for a reserve just in case we needed it later. Well some was held in reserve, but not a dime was returned to the tax payers except a fraction as in 110 of it. But with 140 state agencies covering just 6 million people, introduced more social spending than any governor in the history of this fine state. Why on earth do we need so many different programs, many of which overlap each other and actually cause inter-agency friction and inter-agency waste?
Las Angeles and some surrounding areas has 1 school district for 710,000 students as of 2005. Phoenix has at least 15 that I counted here. http://www.ade.az.gov/schools/schools/districts.asp That's just Phoenix, not counting any of the cities in the greater Phoenix area, which when they get thrown into the loop, you got dozens more. I certainly am not suggesting that we do what LA did and pour them all into one, but give me a break, this is a funding issue and having 15 or more administrators, who knows how many duplications of job duties we have down the line, all doing their own thing smacks of wasteful spending.
We do not need to have the overhead that we have in a state so small, population wise, that we have today. But her majesty and others downtown are going to have to look at the big picture for once, not just their next election hopes for real answers. The time has come for very serious talks at the highest levels of state government, much like the talks called for by GOP state leaders some 3 months ago when the crisis really first cam to light. At that time Janet was reluctant to commit to any ideas, although since that time she as asked for 10-20% reduction proposals from her various agency heads. Nice reaction time, JANET.
But here's the best part, this just sits right where Janet Napalitano wants it to sit,"States can best protect their economies -- as well as their most vulnerable residents -- by targeting tax increases to the upper end of theincome scale and avoiding cuts to programs that low-income people rely on,"said Lav. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/12-18-2007/0004724966&EDATE=
You watch as this is her fix to it all. Although most states are still in line of under their percentages from 2001 budgets, Arizona isn't. We have spent to high heaven on every little pet project she wanted from pre-school to all day day care.
fiscal responsibility does not have to come from the upper income earners, it needs to come from government, it needs to come from leadership. It needs to come from Janet Napalitano.
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Dec. 24, 2007 at 05:19:39 PM
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| Oh heck, sorry Mody. I was blaming you for such an ignorant article, I should have known better. I just read something else you said in another thread that ticked me off, read this, and confused the authors. So, once again, sorry Mody. AA, I meant to offend you. |
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Dec. 24, 2007 at 05:54:40 PM
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| [link:nationalpriorities.org] Here is 600,000,000 in the mere blink of an eye. . . But that is fine and dandy because all of our descendants, who we will never know will be paying it back (or be speaking Chinese)
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Dec. 24, 2007 at 07:20:50 PM
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| Phad say's sorry mody I attacked the wrong conservative. But of course all these budget problems are because of conservatives AA. You know the dems in this state NEVER waste any taxpayer money. I think this is a great idea: Thursday, September 20, 2007Napolitano proposes bake sale to close budget gap
I guess the city of Phoenix was inspired by Janet when they........ The Phoenix City Council voted Tuesday to endorse a proposed public art piece downtown that has been described as a giant jelly fish made out of nets. The council voted 5-3 during a policy session to approve a nearly $1.9 million contract to engineer, fabricate and install the art. The entire project is expected to cost Phoenix $2.4 million. |
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Dec. 24, 2007 at 07:48:32 PM
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Also, for state budget issues, there are many ways to make up shortfalls:
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Dec. 25, 2007 at 01:39:05 AM
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| If you are so smart, she ,at least, wasn't kick out of office like your buddies Meacham or Symington. These two gentlemen were the two best politians that the Republicans had to offer our state. I forgot AA's personal choice:Len Munsil. He made the three stooges but at least, the original stooges were funny not sad and poorly educated. Who's next for the Republicans, Andrew Thomas or Joe Arpaio.
Tell AA, who's it going to be???? |
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Dec. 25, 2007 at 01:39:21 AM
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| If you are so smart, she ,at least, wasn't kick out of office like your buddies Meacham or Symington. These two gentlemen were the two best politians that the Republicans had to offer our state. I forgot AA's personal choice:Len Munsil. He made the three stooges but at least, the original stooges were funny not sad and poorly educated. Who's next for the Republicans, Andrew Thomas or Joe Arpaio.
Tell AA, who's it going to be???? |
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Dec. 25, 2007 at 01:42:44 PM
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| I had a beautifully written three paragraph rebuttal to this article all typed out, with a link to the chart on the Dose of Budgetary Reality article I just republished, so that AA can refer to the graph. Not only did the rebuttal disappear into the ether (with the error message that I was no longer logged in), but the graph I tried to post in the other article is illegible since I no longer have the ability using Firefox to change the graphic size (or even see the graphic in the composition field). Just a couple of bugs for VONA to be aware of. As for my comment to AA, I'll try to recall some of the major points, but at this point I'm teed off and inappropriately grouchy for Christmas day. AA. You might have noticed that almost all major US cities are going through a budgetary crunch. That's because s*** rolls downhill, and our massive record national budgetary debt, our massive annual national budgetary deficits, our off the books military spending in Iraq and Afghanistan, our top-heavy federal tax cuts in a time of war, and our nation-wide housing bubble meltdown have led us us to the edge of economic ruin. The states are now suffering because of unfunded and underfunded federal programs and mandates (NCLB, for instance), a crumbling national infrastructure, ever escalating health costs, a weakening dollar, and a lose of faith in the market and US competitiveness. These are federal issues that failed supply-side, trickle-down, unregulated marketplace Reaganomics embraced by Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II have brought down upon our heads. Put the blame where it belongs. Napolitano didn't double the federal debt in eight years, Bush did. And now you'd like to point to Napolitano's trying to preserve our schools and social programs and reckless budget mismanagement. What a laugh. You also should really learn the difference between deficit and debt. Clinton didn't even come close to paying off the federal debt accrued by Reagan and Bush I, but he most certainly reversed deficit spending in his second term, paying down the debt rather than ringing it up, which is what Bush II immediately did as soon as the Harvard Business School graduated stepped into the Oval Office. That's annual national budgetary surpluses AA; not bogus surpluses of magic future-value accounting, off the books wars, and number massaging practiced by the Bush Administration. Bush the responsible spending Republican doubled this country debt, and you're going to attack a Democratic Governor for facing a budgetary crisis shared by nearly every other state in this country? http://www.voiceofarizona.com/A_Dose_of_Budgetary_Reality-5031-2-5216.htm#comments |
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Dec. 26, 2007 at 08:04:01 AM
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| I am surprised with the shortfall with such a new and incredible source of increased revenue....
Plan Would Let Seniors Work to Pay Taxes
Greenburgh doesn't want her to leave, either. The town is pushing a program that would let seniors work part-time, for $7 an hour, to help pay off some of their property taxes. "People shouldn't have to sell their house, move away to a place with less taxes, leave behind their family and friends," said Town Supervisor Paul Feiner. He envisions retired doctors mentoring schoolchildren, retired accountants helping with the town's finances, retired lawyers offering their services for a discount. But there are plenty of less-skilled jobs that need doing, he said. "It's not like we're going to see grandma running the snowplow," he said. "There are lots of things people can do for the town and it wouldn't cost us that much to pay them." The proposal has caused a stir in Greenburgh, a town of 90,000 in Westchester County, which has the nation's third-highest homeowner property taxes. The plan would be unusual if not unique in New York, but similar programs are considered successes in Colorado, Massachusetts, South Carolina and elsewhere. Davison, who suffers from arthritis and sciatica and needs a walker to get around on her bad days, said she pays about $12,000 a year in property taxes - perhaps $2,000 to the town - and has already taken out a reverse mortgage to pay her bills. |
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Dec. 27, 2007 at 03:14:56 PM
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| 1 more point on AZ state budget issues; when you take into account that a huge percentage of the AZ budget is K-12 education (60%), universities, cops/prisons, Federal mandates, court ordered, initiatives, and referendum, AZ is quite frugal already. About the only stuff left over is stuff like the Commerce Dept, DOT/roads, film promotion and that is all there is. So if you want to cut from the state budget, it has gotta come from education, and cops/prisons, because nothing else in the budget is big enough to really make a dent in that $600mil shortfall. Or raise taxes. |
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Meanwhile, left unsaid is the enormous drain on state coffers of Do Drugs Do Time; which even the genius Robb Robb of the AZ Republican and formerly of the Goldwater Institute for Predetermined Outcome Studies has admitted is a huge waste of money, and human lives.
Wanna fix the budget? Undo Do Drugs Do Time, make possession of marijuana into a misdemeanor, and remove the sentencing guidelines. That'll let judges use their discretion, and then good conservatives like Mike Huckleberry can pardon the serious repeat sex offender, so only dangerous felons who aren't conservatives will be left in prison.
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